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同胞們動員起來，一起打倒台獨hgs!

15:30

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繼棠

同胞們動員起來，一起打倒台獨hgs!

话说回来有一位HGS的就在这里

Mil

哪位?談談我也是歡迎的。

@繼棠我說的是 @milspec

15:36

那個人一定會反抗吧

15:36

上次他很不喜歡然後又叫我修臺灣旗

hey guys.. the taiwan independence flag is not HGS art but we tried to defend it because it was a friend of our alliance. I like the white sun/blue sky/red earth flag for Taiwan anyway so we don't feel very strongly about defending it.

milspec

hey guys.. the taiwan independence flag is not HGS art but we tried to defend it because it was a friend of our alliance. I like the white sun/blue sky/red earth flag for Taiwan anyway so we don't feel very strongly about defending it.

Then please hgs stop taking action. Otherwise hgs will make many enemies

We have stopped. But I dont understand the logic of making enemies by defending art that has been there for a long time already. The attackers are the aggressive ones.

Now in mainland China and Taiwan, many people are mobilized. We must stick to this flag and fight against Taiwan independence to the end. Next our international reinforcements will arrive. If hgs stops acting, we can remain friendly.

It doesn't bother me. The ROC flag is nice.

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One thing you need to understand: Just because it's been around for a long time doesn't mean it's wrong. Kaohsiung is the actual territory of China. We are not attacking, but putting up the right flag.

Lets be clear. Kaoshiung is the territory of ROC. Kaoshiung is not the territory of the PRC. PRC and ROC are two different countries.

yes roc bot not ''Republic of Taiwan''

Taiwan is just the common name for ROC. China is the common name for PRC.

so it will be this flag

15:47

15:48

Neither the five-star flag nor the Taiwan independence flag.

15:48

Will always be in Kaohsiung.

有点看不懂HGS对大陆、台湾关系是什么立场

问就是目田

繼棠

Sure, I like this flag a lot.

据说HGS的dc群用的是青白红旗代表台湾

15:51

估计是绿立场

其实都是渐变的

反正我沒有看到台獨旗就ok

还用的波兰球，roc抱立陶宛

我堅持維護的就是大中華

组织有很多人，都会有自己想法

15:52

各种词汇也有自己的定义

宪政标语坚决防守，但台独旗就停了

反正从作品看就是标准目田

有点混沌

哪里混沌了

繼棠

我堅持維護的就是大中華

I recognise the independence of the mainland to form a new country called PRC. Declaration of independence from ROC by Mao in 1949.

milspec

I recognise the independence of the mainland to form a new country called PRC. Declaration of independence from ROC by Mao in 1949.

There are two regimes in Taiwan and the mainland. This is the fact that Taiwan independence does not exist, and they are trying to seize the power of the ROC, so we will stand together and fight against them.

Not two regimes. Two countries. PRC is a country. ROC is a country.

合理。憲政是三民主義的一部份，不是台獨的一部份，台獨是獨裁的。

I don't believe in Taiwan independence. But I believe in mainland independence from ROC.

wawa

15:57

我决定好在大陆上绘画一点抗议内容了

milspec

Not two regimes. Two countries. PRC is a country. ROC is a country.

I respect your statement. We don’t have to fight to the death on this matter. There is only one thing I insist on: let the Taiwan independence flag disappear.

wow, it's a new opinion for me

没咋参与过建政，搞不清楚这些

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繼棠

I respect your statement. We don’t have to fight to the death on this matter. There is only one thing I insist on: let the Taiwan independence flag disappear.

I don't need the Taiwan independence flag either.

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不用鍵政了今天。至少我們達成了一個共識:台獨旗出局了。

16:00

好好好

16:00

神友也来凑热闹

好好好，整個高雄打成一鍋粥阿

吉列的豆蒸

感謝各位好朋友，給高雄來了一場大震撼。

反对南通市政破坏六百亩滩涂地建设房地产和工业项目

这个。。是列宁吧

三种以上濒危鸟类以此滩涂作为栖息地

鲤鱼王

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神友效率太差了吧，我等著改黑天紅日旗呢

Regarding Taiwan, it is indeed two separate governments in reality. However, we are all Chinese compatriots and should not be separated or seek independence.

撕裂漢民族的是阶级斗争

Mao already separated us into two countries in 1949. The divorce already happened.

等到頭份給我畫我的紅色外套根本就讓我吃雞

This is still a challenge, but hundreds of years ago we were a family.

黃智輝

等到頭份給我畫我的紅色外套根本就讓我吃雞

因為我穿的是苗栗高商的制服

琴海奶油

This is still a challenge, but hundreds of years ago we were a family.

Yes, which is why it is a shame that Mao created a new country called PRC.

milspec

Mao already separated us into two countries in 1949. The divorce already happened.

It should be said that Mao and Chiang jointly created this situation

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If you agree that Taiwan is a country, then the flag for Taiwan independence should not exist, because there are already

WHK

It should be said that Mao and Chiang jointly created this situation

Chiang didn't declare independence from ROC. But Mao did. (edited)

milspec

Yes, which is why it is a shame that Mao created a new country called PRC.

There's no shame in this. China emphasizes the success of the king and the defeat of the enemy. Chiang Kai-shek's defeat in Taiwan, then the responsibility is not entirely on Mao's shoulders

solovjanenko

反对南通市政破坏六百亩滩涂地建设房地产和工业项目

南通建筑业很发达

16:10

江苏很多都知道

16:10

ok，抗议好了

估计也是没钱了

琴海奶油

If you agree that Taiwan is a country, then the flag for Taiwan independence should not exist, because there are already

yes, I agree. no need for Taiwan independence - Taiwan is the common name for ROC, which has been independent since 1912.

建筑工人很多

各位不要跟他鑒證了，我猜他真的不了解兩岸關係。遊戲內事務遊戲內解決，不用跟他科普這個了。

WHK

There's no shame in this. China emphasizes the success of the king and the defeat of the enemy. Chiang Kai-shek's defeat in Taiwan, then the responsibility is not entirely on Mao's shoulders

There is shame in separatism - Mao separated the mainland from ROC.

还是一句话，谁的标语丑的批爆我就质疑谁的品味

大家不要吵了，再吵我要发蒋委员长跳舞视频了

ComiFan

大家不要吵了，再吵我要发蒋委员长跳舞视频了

請務必發出來❤️

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milspec

Chiang didn't declare independence from ROC. But Mao did. (edited)

As i said, "The victor becomes king, the loser becomes a bandit." It’s not about who seeks independence from whom; whoever achieves success in history becomes the legitimate successor. By this logic, Sun Yat-sen was also seeking independence from the Qing Dynasty, but that’s not a reasonable way to frame it.

繼棠

各位不要跟他鑒證了，我猜他真的不了解兩岸關係。遊戲內事務遊戲內解決，不用跟他科普這個了。

I think I understand just fine.

勺嘴鹬全球仅剩四百到六百只

16:12

南通滩涂地是它们仅存的最后栖息地

港独台独旗我其实意见不大，我没拆过，因为那东西还真不丑但你发大陆那肯定会有人路过就踹两脚

建设不能以破坏生态发展为代价，经济不能以伤害自然动物为交换

milspec

I think I understand just fine.

We are a family. The issue of division must be resolved in the future, regardless of the government.

milspec

There is shame in separatism - Mao separated the mainland from ROC.

Who wins is the heir of history. We can only blame Chiang Kai-shek for being incompetent

solovjanenko

建设不能以破坏生态发展为代价，经济不能以伤害自然动物为交换

部分同意

WHK

As i said, "The victor becomes king, the loser becomes a bandit." It’s not about who seeks independence from whom; whoever achieves success in history becomes the legitimate successor. By this logic, Sun Yat-sen was also seeking independence from the Qing Dynasty, but that’s not a reasonable way to frame it.

Yes, but Mao was defeated at Kinmen. So he wasn't the victor - it was a stalemate as the ROC was not defeated (unlike the Qing). And therefore instead of a successor state, the PRC was created as a seceding state - a separatist movement.

所以委員長跳舞視頻呢

不过政治考量还是太多了

繼棠

所以委員長跳舞視頻呢

我靠你真要啊

大家一笑泯恩仇吧

我找一个高播放量的

讓大家樂呵樂呵啊

milspec

Yes, but Mao was defeated at Kinmen. So he wasn't the victor - it was a stalemate as the ROC was not defeated (unlike the Qing). And therefore instead of a successor state, the PRC was created as a seceding state - a separatist movement.

But he gained control of the Chinese mainland and made the international community accept that the country was the representative of China. This has already been the legal system of China in history.

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多的是

全国鸟类保护协会和中华人民共和国自然资源与规划局已经向南通市政府去函

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16:15

死一只勺嘴鹬，南通市政府的规划班子就要没一个妈

WHK

But he gained control of the Chinese mainland and made the international community accept that the country was the representative of China. This has already been the legal system of China in history.

yes, he gained control over the mainland and separated it from the ROC to from a new country called ROC. Over time the PRC gained the common name China and the ROC gained the common name Taiwan. However, when you examine the root of today's problem it is because he created a new country rather than keep the same country.

If want to discuss it, it is better to do it in the English channel@milspec (edited)

WHK

If want to discuss it, it is better to do it in the English channel@milspec (edited)

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